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Taxman cometh...

Wednesday 31 Jan, 2007 - 11:21am | 4 comments |

I read in today Irish Times that "Thousands of property owners could face fines or other penalties as a result of a Revenue clampdown on abuse of stamp duty relief".

The investigation, based upon a pilot project in the Dublin Area, is targeting individuals availing of owner occupier stamp duty relief who rent out their properties within 5 years of purchase.The pilot scheme will involve a random sample of 1,000 transactions from 2003 where purchasers availed of full "owner-occupier" relief. The investigation is in response to concerns that individuals may have claimed stamp duty relief but subsquently rent out the property within the 5 year period. By doing so the stamp duty, plus interest and penalties is repayable to the Revenue under "claw-back", a requirement of law.

Now tax evasion costs us all money, and is illegal, however I cannot feel that this is an attempt by revenue to punish those who have struggled to buy a house/apartment in the first place is now going to have to cough up more hard earned cash. I doubt very much that when a "first time" buyer who finally has saved enough money to actually buy a property would be aware of such laws, relating to "claw-back" and I doubt that solicitors would sit them down and say "well congradulations the house is yours, here are your keys, and d'ont leave and rent out your house for the next 5 years, or you'll end up paying "claw back". I can't but consider someone who is transferred due to work to another part of the country and decides to rent out the house for that period that they are working away, are they going to be taxed?.It should also be noted that should you sell the property to an unrelated third party within the 5 years, the "claw back" does not apply, presumably due to the fact that they'll get the stamp duty from the new buyer anyway. Its a well known fact that selling houses is an expensive "hobby" with Auctioneers, Solicitors and Revenue all getting their cut of your money.

Or consider the couple who after a few years have earned enough money to buy another house and decide to "hang on" to the first property as part of planning for their future and perhaps the future of their children.

The Irish Government took in some €3.7bn in stamp duty in 2006, I'dont know what the split between individuals and developers was,the official website of the Department of Finance is "presently under construction",but be assured that a considerable amount by paid by "joe public" who it appears will be asked to cough up again, should they have a liability.

Revenue went on to say that "The individuals involved have been contacted and requested to furnish specific information". Again many people simply do not hang on to all pieces of documentation when buying a home, so its off to the solicitor to dig out what is needed, some solicitors may not charge and some may. I have a feeling that tax advisers are going to be busy on this one.

In Brian Cowens Budget speech in Dec 06, he said "In the current market situation, any stamp duty cuts would more likely than not be incorporated into the sale price and so end up in the pocket of the seller." It would appear that its the Government that will get the money in its pocket, and just as the SSIA's  begin to mature.

A further ironic aspect to this is the fact that the Government has been telling us that you should be providing for your retirement by making pension contributions. To that end they provide you will generous tax deductions at the marginal rate, should you be paying tax at that rate, as property has historically being a very good element of any investment portfolio many people have held houses which they would expect to increase in value over the long term and thereby provide them with additional income in retirement, and thereby reducing their dependency on the state.

As always it would appear that if you show any willingness to provide for your family's future, the taxman cometh, and the taxman taketh away.

Posted in: Government
Tags: Revenue Commissioners | Joe Public | Stamp Duty | Residential Property

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.. Property Tax.........

Thursday 01 Feb, 2007 - 11:38am
This stamp duty is driving me mad. We recently went looking for a new house, we knew that we would be liable for stamp duty, but its not until you find a house that you really like and add on the stamp duty that it hits you, Christ I need another 48k just to buy a home.Even by putting on the new mortgage I still have to pay it back.When they say that there is no property tax in Ireland i disagree.

Posted by: Anonymous

.. Rip Off.....

Thursday 01 Feb, 2007 - 13:35pm
Compare the UK rates with the Irish rates and you'll really be annoyed.

Posted by: Anonymous

.. Equitable?

Thursday 01 Feb, 2007 - 15:19pm

I have to agree its very annoying.Even if you were going to put the Stamp Duty on your mortgage based on a 20 year Mortgage, on a variable rate, it would cost you approx €6.4 per '000 borrowed,depending on lender, and in the case above about €307 per month. That would go a long way towards a nice holiday.

Surely there must be a more equitable way, say for example, the seller pays half and the buyer pays half.At least that way should the seller stump up the price they will pay more as well. I d'ont think politically this would be very popular.

Posted by: Blacksheep

.. Vat Waiver

Sunday 04 Feb, 2007 - 12:43pm
At least Brian Cowen has eliminated the practise of allowing property developers to claim back all vat @13.5% up front and then returning it over the next ten years from rent received. Perhaps this might level things off a little.

Posted by: Anonymous


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